Proof: A True Crime Podcast

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Proof: A True Crime Podcast is a serialized investigation into cases of potential wrongful conviction. Hosted by Susan Simpson of the Undisclosed Podcast and Jacinda Davis of TV’s Evil Lives Here, Proof unravels the tangled and competing demands of the legal system, police practices, truth, guilt and innocence.
Season 2: The second season of Proof: Murder at the Warehouse takes Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis to Manteca, CA where they reinvestigate the murder of 18-year-old Renee Ramos. On June

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 13

LaVone Hill spent 22 years in prison for a double murder he did not commit. While incarcerated, he met Scott Baldwin, and the two bonded over walks in the yard, sharing case law. In October 2024, LaVone was exonerated—his conviction vacated, and his

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 12

Scott Baldwin knew he wasn’t alone—he believed there were others like him who had been wrongfully convicted. In this third season of Proof, we heard many of those stories, along with a shocking revelation about why a key witness never testified in on

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 12 – Hush Hush

In the final episode of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop, the team uncovers letters and documents suggesting a conspiracy that may have reached the highest levels of Kalamazoo’s legal system—one aimed at preventing a key eyewitness from testifying in o

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 11

Two tips that were never investigated could have changed everything in Scott Baldwin’s case. It’s too late for Scott—but not for the truth. Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin reflect on his final days—and the frustration of knowing the evidence that could hav

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 11 – 8,948 Days

Two overlooked tips could hold the answer to what actually happened to Earl O’Byrne—answers that, 25 years ago, would have spared Scott from a wrongful conviction. It’s too late to undo what happened to Scott Baldwin, but if a judge grants resentenci

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 10

In Episode 10 of PROOF: Murder at the Bike Shop the team finally tracks down Allen Nutter. After multiple trips to Kalamazoo and countless hours of searching, it pays off—he confirms what the PROOF team had suspected all along, and more. On this week

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 10 – The Wrong Fish

Silence can make it nearly impossible to prove innocence. For people like Scott Baldwin, it can mean the difference between justice and none at all. The Proof team finally tracks down longtime alternate suspect Allen Nutter—but will he talk? As they

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar Q&A

From what happened to the bike shop after Earl’s murder to the mystery of the money bags and more, Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick answer listener questions from throughout this season of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop on this wee

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 9

In episode 9 of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop, we explored a critical question: why would someone confess to a crime they didn’t commit? You heard it in the story of the Polderman defendants, where multiple confessions raised serious doubts about wh

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 9 – The Dilemma

Scott Baldwin told us to keep digging. So we went back to the murders of Marinus and Sary Polderman and their daughter, Anna Lewis, who were brutally killed in their Michigan home in August 2000. The case went cold until eight years later, when five

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 8

In this week’s SIDEBAR, Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick break down Murder at the Bike Shop: Episode 8 — including why they couldn’t let a big snake stop them from collecting a bag of clothes that may contain critical DNA evidence.

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 8 – Watch Out for Snakes

With more information in hand, Jacinda and Kevin return to Alabama to re -interview Scott Baldwin’s ex-girlfriend and search for James Long, a former bike shop employee who should have been investigated. Finding out who received Silent Observer rewar

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 7

In this episode, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk about their first investigative trip back to Kalamazoo since the Jeff Titus case — what they found, what still doesn’t add up, and how frustrating (and heartbreaking) it can be to dig into wrongful conv

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 7 – In Cold Blood

Over the years, Scott Baldwin’s appeals focused on one alternate suspect. But what if investigators overlooked someone else — a person who, by all accounts, should have been investigated? The PROOF team travels to Kalamazoo to uncover information abo

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 6

The PROOF team returns for Sidebar to break down Episode 6 of Murder at the Bike Shop — “The Boogeyman.” Suppressed evidence. An alternate suspect. And one person who seems to know too much. Evidence that may have changed Scott Baldwin’s fate.

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 6 – The Boogeyman

For decades, an alternate suspect has been the center of scrutiny in the murder of Earl O’Byrne. The PROOF team uncovers a connection between this suspect and a key piece of evidence that was never fully investigated. Meanwhile, Scott Baldwin is appr

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 5

At trial, the prosecutor claimed Scott Baldwin must be guilty because he “stole” the bank bags — and because he liked the song “Butterfly” by Tapping the Vein. But the bank bags were never stolen, and songwriter Heather Thompson explains the song’s r

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 5 – SAFARI SAFARI

Song lyrics. Alleged confessions. Stolen bank bags and a box of coins. This was the evidence that led a jury to convict Scott Baldwin. But what if one overlooked detail could have unraveled the State’s case?

And in 1995, when Hyland Sterling was con

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 4

The fourth episode of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop raised more questions about the case against Scott Baldwin — blood or bondo, confession or no confession? In this week’s SIDEBAR, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin dig into what makes sense, what doesn’t,

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 4 – Bondo Beast

Kalamazoo Cold Case detectives question Scott Baldwin about the night Earl O’Byrne was killed—but they don’t think he’s telling the truth. Scott shares his side of the story with Susan and Jacinda. Plus, the Proof team speaks with a current Kalamazoo

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 3

In the third episode of PROOF: Murder at the Bike Shop, Jacinda and Kevin sit down with the key witness against Scott Bladwin. In this week’s Sidebar,
hear their impressions of that interview. The team also discusses the case
against Patrick Mishall,

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 3 – Memories Awake

Stacey told police that her ex-boyfriend, Scott Baldwin, killed Earl O-Byrne, but they didn’t believe her. So why, 12-years later, did the Kalamazoo Cold Case Team decide she was telling the truth? What will she say 25 years later when the PROOF team

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Sidebar 1 -2

In the first Sidebar episode of their new season of Proof: Murder at the Bike Shop, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin come together to discuss episodes one and two offering behind the scenes insights and sharing their thoughts on the case against Scott Baldw

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 2 – Kalamazoo Cycle

To understand how Scott Baldwin was convicted, the Proof team unearths everything they can about 83-year-old Earl O’Byrne and the circumstances of his murder.

 

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Murder at the Bike Shop | Ep. 1 – Toes First

The brutal 1988 murder of 83-year-old Kalamazoo bike shop owner Earl O’Byrne is shocking. Earl is a fixture in the community who has sold just about every kid in town their first bicycle. Despite numerous tips, the case goes cold. But over a decade l

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 19 - Meeting Jake

Although they talk to him often, Jacinda Davis and Kevin Fitzpatrick have never actually met Jake Silva face to face. While they're in California they take the opportunity to meet with one of Jake's attorneys, Audrey McGinn, who explains what's happe

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Russian Roulette | Ep. 19 - Two Years Later

On December 8, 2022, Lee Clark and Cain Joshua Storey were exonerated after serving 25 years in prison for a crime they did not commit. Taped during a session at the Rome International Film Festival in November 2024, Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 18 – Shortest Route Possible

During the course of their investigation, Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis uncovered pieces of evidence that had been considered lost– like Renee’s necklaces and clothes. It’s very likely that these items retained the killer’s DNA. Now that they’ve be

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 17

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick share updates on the status of Jake Silva's case.

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 17 – The Butterfly

A witness comes forward with new information about Renee’s last days. And an unexpected discovery could be the break that brings Jake Silva one step closer to freedom. The murders of LaToya Lusk and Karen “Mary” Nelson remain unsolved, but the Proof

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 16

In Episode 16 of Proof: Murder at the Warehouse, Susan and Jacinda interviewed two witnesses who came forward with new information about the murder of Renee Ramos. The team discusses those interviews and Susan points out possible Brady violations unc

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 16 – Junior and The Source

Coming forward with information about a murder can be scary, and for some people it comes with consequences. But with every person who does come forward, we get a little bit closer to finding the truth. In this episode of Proof: Murder at the Warehou

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 15

With season two winding down, vital information continues to come in. Faced with a tidal wave of innuendo and rumors, Susan and Jacinda fight the temptation to jump to conclusions.
 
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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 15 - How the Game is Played

Their first interview with Tim Fisher left Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin with more questions than answers. Now, better prepared, they are ready to meet with him again and share what they have learned about the case. And the team takes a distressing drive

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 14

In Episode 14 of Proof: Did You Find the Real Killer, Eric Greer’s mother shared startling information about her son and why he felt compelled to record a video statement about Renee Ramos’ murder. But other witnesses did not want to get involved – n

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 14 – Did You Find the Real Killer?

Eric Greer was hit by a car and killed months after recording a video statement about Renee Ramos’ murder. Will finding out more about Eric shed light on what really happened to Renee? And a new letter from Jared Conway could help solve a murder case

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 13

In addition to answering listener questions, Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk about what it was like interviewing Tim Fisher, a witness they hadn’t planned on meeting so soon. And how they quickly realized they needed more information before meeting wi

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 13 - A Blonde and a Brunette

Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis plunge deeper into the investigation of 18-year-old Renee Ramos’ murder. As they relentlessly pursue leads, a chance phone call during an interview puts them face to face with a potentially important witness they hadn’

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 12

In this week’s Sidebar Susan, Jacinda and Kevin share a disheartening update on where things stand on Lee Clark’s and Joey Watkins’ compensation bills. And they discuss what it was like to interview Josh Burroughs and what it means (or doesn't mean)

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 12- The Kid With The Earnest Lies

Josh Burroughs told detectives a multitude of different stories about what happened the night 18-year-old Renee Ramos was murdered. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis interview Josh Burroughs to see what he remembers now. And the Proof team tries to mak

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 11

Not all witnesses want to talk, that’s expected. In this week’s Sidebar the hosts discuss the possible reasons why key witnesses decline interviews. But how, sometimes, one throwaway line in the case file can lead you to a witness who has information

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 11 - Striking Out

The Proof Team continues to investigate the murder of Renee Ramos and heads to the Midwest to talk to the third co-defendant in the case. They also hear from key witnesses who were overlooked during the initial investigation. And a chance encounter l

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 10

Will the real Rapper’s Delight please stand up? Susan's endless hunt for the real Rapper’s Delight continues. Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk more about their interview with Victoria and the reasons she thinks Jake and Ty are innocent. And they also d

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 10 - The Search for Rapper’s Delight

Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk to Louis’ mom and find out why she thinks Jake Silva is innocent. And a jailhouse informant tells them more about the confession that led to Ty Lopes’ conviction.
 
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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 8

In this week’s Sidebar the hosts of Proof dive deep into Murder at the Warehouse, Episode 8 and share their thoughts on the real Grim Crew, the Prosecutor’s strategy at trial, and the alleged Home Depot Party. You’ll also hear their takeaways from me

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 8 - Some Kind of Gothic Skater People

Manteca, California has changed a lot since Jake Silva and Ty Lopes were arrested for Renee Ramos’ murder in 2000. But many of the people from the case files still live in town. To try to figure out what really happened to Renee, the Proof team heads

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 7

If Jake Silva and Ty Lopes did not murder Renee Ramos, then who did? On this week’s Sidebar Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick discuss alternative theories presented in Episode 7. Theories that have never been investigated… until now

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 7 – Little Red

After 18-year-old Renee Ramos is found murdered, detectives zero in on her boyfriend Jake Silva and his best friend’s uncle Ty Lopes. But in their determination to solve the case, other suspects may have been overlooked. Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis,

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 6

On this week’s Sidebar the hosts of Proof share their thoughts on Ty Lopes’ murder and how it may have impacted Jake’s case. And you’ll hear more from the man who attacked Jake – what happened to him after the assault and how his life behind bars has

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 6 – Mule Creek

Jake Silva and Ty Lopes are convicted to life behind bars for the rape and murder of 18-year-old Renee Ramos. Life in prison is hard but even harder when you have an “R” on your back. As rumors spread about Jake Silva’s and Ty Lopes’ convictions, the

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 5

Defense attorney and podcaster Bob Motta (Defense Diaries) joins Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis to share his unique take on the evidence used to convict Jake Silva and Ty Lopes of Renee Ramos’ murder. Motta also shares insights into the Delphi murde

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 5 – Cat and Mouse Game

The evidence against Ty Lopes had been thin, but enough for a jury to convict him of killing Renee Ramos. In Jake Silva’s case the prosecution had new witnesses and evidence. But would it be enough to convince Jake Silva's jury to find him guilty too

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 4

The hosts of Proof share their thoughts on 14-year-old eyewitness Josh Burroughs' multiple stories and Susan provides insight into how his testimony was used at trial. After he is convicted of Renee Ramos’ rape and murder, Ty Lopes makes a passionate

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 4 – I’ll Be Home Later

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick investigate how 33-year-old Ty Lopes becomes a suspect in the rape and murder of Renee Ramos. The hosts talk to Lopes’ family, including his daughter Mandi, to get a better understanding of his rela

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 3

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick answer listener questions and discuss how a 14-year-old witness becomes the turning point in the investigation into Renee Ramos’ murder. Bonus interrogation clips and calls with Jake Silva are also

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 3 – Secrets Don’t Last

The investigation into Renee Ramos’ murder is about to go cold when a 14-year-old boy comes forward and gives detectives the break they’ve been hoping for. By interrogating the new witness and their two lead suspects, investigators believe they’ve so

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 2

Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick dissect the first two episodes of Proof: Murder at the Warehouse and also answer listeners’ burning questions. In this week’s latest Sidebar, the hosts unveil additional audio from Jake Silva’s inte

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 2 - The Boyfriend, Obviously

After Renee Ramos’ body is found and detectives begin to investigate her murder, they quickly learn that she had a tumultuous relationship with her boyfriend Jake Silva. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis talk to Jake’s and Renee’s friends to find out m

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Murder at the Warehouse | Sidebar 1

The hosts of Proof - Susan Simpson, Jacinda Davis, and Kevin Fitzpatrick - discuss season two of the podcast and what to expect on this season's bonus Sidebar episodes. Sidebar is an extension of Proof where Susan, Jacinda, and Kevin talk candidly ab

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Murder at the Warehouse | Ep. 1 - A Spaceship in Manteca

When 18-year-old Renee Ramos goes missing from the Central California town of Manteca, her friends and family race to find her. Twenty-three years later, Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis retrace her steps to find out what really happened.

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Ep. 18 Proof: Russian Roulette - Made it Home

On December 8th, 2022, Darrell Lee Clark and Cain Joshua Storey were exonerated and released from prison. As a result of the new evidence discovered during Season 1 of Proof, the Floyd County DA’s Office agreed to dismiss their convictions.

In this

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Ep. 17 - Update: Unshackled

Adnan Syed is out, and Lee Clark’s future is hanging in the balance. Exclusive Proof conversation between Adnan’s advocates Susan Simpson and Rabia Chaudry as he waits for new DNA results. Meanwhile, Lee’s attorneys at the Georgia Innocence Project f

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Ep. 16 - Crossroads

Susan, Jacinda, Kevin, and Dan the cameraman discuss the ups and downs of the case... with outtakes, updates, and what’s next for Proof.

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Ep. 15 - 25 Years Later: Face to Face

After listening to the podcast, Brian’s sister and uncle reach out to Lee’s dad. And, Jacinda receives an unexpected email from Sgt. Dallas Battle’s son.

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Ep. 14 - The Coroner Calls

Susan and Jacinda try to figure out why there was no autopsy done in this case. Then Susan receives an unexpected call.

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Ep. 13 - What Charlie Childers Saw

Susan and Jacinda finally find the crucial witness and, along with an interpreter, take him back to the scene. What he has to say leaves them stunned.

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Ep. 12 - The Party Hostess

Angela Bruce testified that at her party Cain and Lee boasted about killing Brian. What do the other partygoers say and why were they not called to testify? 
And… 25 years later, Susan and Jacinda talk to Angela herself. 
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Ep. 11 - Stay Gold

Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis unravel the origins of the alleged Free Birds gang and talk to a key witness who never got to testify. 
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Ep. 10 - The Narc’s Tale

The jury hears the details of the “Gang Rule Book” and Lee’s alibi. Cain Storey takes the stand. But was that the right decision? 
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Ep. 9 - Hearsay

Dallas Battle swore that Charlie Childers saw Lee Clark at the house that night. But Charlie is deaf, and understanding what he saw that night is not so cut and dried. Susan and Jacinda search for Charlie and try to unravel the truth. 
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Ep. 8 - Sgt. Battle

A law unto himself, Sgt. Dallas Battle pressures 17-year-old Cain Storey to confess.
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Ep. 7 - Mortician’s Powder

The coroner decides not to autopsy Brian Bowling leaving many questions about the shot that killed him. Finding the answers could tell us who pulled the trigger. 
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Ep. 6 - Pillow Talk

The gun, the bullets, and the pillow. Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis investigate the chain of custody and discover several missing links. 
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Ep. 5 - Don’t Do It Bro

After months of trying, we finally connect with Cain and begin to hear his side of the story.
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Ep. 4 - The Witnesses?

Months after Brian Bowling’s death, witnesses emerge implicating Lee Clark.
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Ep. 3 - Fly High

Looking for proof that Brian Bowling’s death is gang-related, Floyd County detectives exhume his body. And what they find is not good news for Cain Storey and Lee Clark
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Ep. 2 - Us Rome Boys

Brian, Cain, and Lee had all been friends but the shooting on October 18, 1996 left one dead and two in prison for life. Why would these two teenagers have conspired to murder their friend? And why did the community think they were capable of such a

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Ep. 1 - A Dangerous Game

In the first episode of Proof: Russian Roulette, Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis talk with Brian Bowling’s aunt, uncle, his sister and her husband. They tell us what they believe happened that horrible night in October 1996 when Brian was fatally sho