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00:30:03

Something About Cari - Ep. 5: Mother

Liz cooperates with investigators looking into Cari’s disappearance. Then, newly discovered evidence leads to an arrest. This episode originally published on December 16, 2025.

00:31:26

Something About Cari - Ep. 4: A Shot in the Dark

Liz calls 911 to report being shot in a park. Police search for the assailant… and come to a stunning conclusion about who really pulled the trigger. This episode originally published on December 11, 2025.

00:28:35

Something About Cari - Ep. 3: The Circle Expands

After Dave and Liz break up, a suspicious fire erupts at her home. She blames the mother of Dave’s children not only for the blaze, but also for all those disturbing texts and messages she’d gotten over the years. This episode originally published on

00:30:57

Something About Cari - Ep. 2: Bait and Switch

Cari’s boyfriend tells investigators he has no idea where Cari is and that he and his ex-girlfriend Liz have been getting a torrent of troubling online messages from her. This episode originally published on December 2, 2025.

00:33:24

Something About Cari - Ep. 1: The Family Wedding

When single mom Cari Farver skips out on a planned trip with her son, family and friends wonder if it has something to do with the new man in her life. This episode originally published on December 2, 2025.

00:23:12

The Last Appeal - Ep. 4: The Reckoning

Days before Robert Roberson's scheduled execution, his lawyer scrambles to save his life. The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals weighs in. This episode originally published on October 9, 2025.

00:25:39

The Last Appeal - Ep. 2: “I’m Astonished”

Attorney Gretchen Sween takes on Robert's case and pieces together Nikki’s overlooked medical history.  She tracks down a witness from his trial who has new information. This episode originally published on October 7, 2025.

00:29:57

The Last Appeal - Ep. 3: A Date to Die

As Robert Roberson’s execution nears, his attorney uncovers critical evidence and unlikely new allies, including Texas lawmakers and the detective who helped put Robert on death row. This episode was originally published October 8, 2025.

00:28:52

The Last Appeal - Ep. 1: Nikki

When 2-year-old Nikki is rushed to a Texas hospital and doesn’t survive, her father, Robert Roberson, is accused of causing her death. Prosecutors say he shook and beat her in a case of "shaken baby syndrome." This episode originally published on Oct

00:30:21

Deadly Engagement - Ep. 2: He Said, She Said

As they dig deeper into the case, detectives begin to focus on two people with very different stories about one another. This episode originally published on September 16, 2025.

00:39:23

Deadly Engagement - Ep. 3: Homecoming

Just days before Denita Smith is laid to rest, a suspect is charged with her murder. This episode originally published on September 23, 2025.

00:29:51

Deadly Engagement - Ep. 1: The Telltale SUV

When Denita Smith, a talented North Carolina graduate student, is gunned down outside her home, investigators hunt for witnesses and clues. This episode originally published on September 16, 2025.

00:39:28

Dateline Missing in America – Ep. 25: Marked with an X

It was the early morning hours of May 20, 2017, and 15-year-old Sophie Reeder should have been in bed. Instead, she had slipped out of her house in the River Oaks neighborhood of Fort Lauderdale and walked off into the hot, humid night. Two security

00:44:47

Dateline Missing in America – Ep. 24: The Cold Case of Nancy Snow

On November 4, 1980, 44-year-old Nancy Snow boarded a flight to Baltimore from St. Louis, Missouri, where she had spent several months working on Gene McNary’s U.S. Senate campaign. That night she went to a party in Baltimore; the next morning she ha

00:31:01

Dateline Missing in America – Ep. 23: Through the Cracks

Sixteen-year-old Tiffany Reid vanished from Shiprock, New Mexico, on the short walk to Shiprock Northwest High School, on May 17, 2004. A few days later, some of her belongings were discovered scattered along the side of the highway in Arizona, about

00:36:28

Dateline Missing in America – Ep. 22: Mystery on Lovejoy Road

On May 5, 2024, Roy Whited did not show up to preach his Sunday service at DeRossett Church of Christ in Sparta, Tennessee. When church members went to his house to check on the 64-year-old, they found his truck parked in the driveway. His sermon had

00:35:10

Dateline Missing in America – Ep. 21: Taking Teekah

Teekah Lewis was last seen on January 23, 1999, at New Frontier Lanes, a bowling alley in Tacoma, Washington. The 2-year-old was with her mother, younger sister Tameeka, and other family and friends. Teekah had been playing a game in the arcade area

00:34:52

Dateline Missing in America – Ep. 20: Lost Lane

On April 13, 2024, 37-year-old Danielle Lopez vanished in the Pine Barrens of New Jersey while camping with her boyfriend. Her mother, Sue Quackenbush, knew something was wrong when Danielle stopped answering her texts and calls. Sue reported her dau

00:28:18

Murder in the Moonlight - Ep. 6: The Final Dominoes Fall

Judgment day for the accused brings anger and sorrow for the Stocks. And one of the killers talks to Keith about the night of the murders. This episode originally published on March 5, 2025.

00:23:54

Murder in the Moonlight - Ep. 4: About Face

Two new suspects tell police they were at the farmhouse when the Stocks were killed. This episode originally published on February 26, 2025.

00:32:22

Murder in the Moonlight - Ep. 3: The Ring

Investigators find a key piece of evidence that sends the case in a surprising direction. This episode originally published on February 24, 2025.

00:25:45

Murder in the Moonlight - Ep. 1: In Cold Blood

When Wayne and Sharmon Stock are found shot to death in their farmhouse, the investigation starts close to home. This episode originally published on February 17, 2025.

00:35:00

Deadly Mirage - Ep. 3: Tickling the Wire

Secrets about Rob and Sabrina’s lifestyle emerge and police get a warrant for wiretaps. This episode originally published on December 10, 2024.

00:37:47

Deadly Mirage - Ep. 5: Busted

Two suspects are arrested. Then one of them turns on the other. This episode originally published on December 17, 2024.

00:43:10

Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said

A long journey to justice begins, and ex-lovers are reunited in a courtroom. This episode originally published on December 19, 2024.

00:34:23

Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba

Investigators listen in as two murder suspects seek solace from each other… and the Bible. This episode originally published on December 12, 2024.

00:31:05

Deadly Mirage - Ep. 2: The Man on the Motorcycle

Detectives pursue multiple potential suspects, a key witness comes forward, and stunning secrets are revealed. This episode originally published on December 3, 2024.

00:35:14

Deadly Mirage - Ep. 1: Death in the High Desert

Rob Limon’s close-knit group of friends is shattered when he is shot to death at work. Did the killing have something to do with his job, or something closer to home? This episode originally published on December 3, 2024.

00:25:32

The Man in the Black Mask - Ep. 3: Catfishing

Police recover a deleted document from Mark Twitchell’s computer that reads like a script for a horror film. But was it more than just fiction? This episode originally published on October 22, 2024.

00:32:00

Morrison Mysteries - The Dead Alive Ep. 2: The Missing Man

There's tension at the Meadowcroft estate. Farm manager John Jago fights furiously with the owner's sons, Ambrose and Silas. They discover that Jago had a secret meeting with Ambrose's girlfriend, Naomi. And then suddenly... John Jago goes missing. 

00:33:00

Morrison Mysteries - The Dead Alive Ep. 3: The Murder Trial

Brothers Ambrose and Silas go on trial for the murder of John Jago. Naomi swears Ambrose is innocent. But London attorney Philip Lefrank is not so sure. This episode was originally published on August 28, 2024.

00:32:55

Morrison Mysteries – The Dead Alive Ep. 1: The Secret Garden

London attorney Philip Lefrank travels to America for a relaxing vacation with his relatives, the Meadowcrofts. But he soon finds himself embroiled in an intense and dangerous family drama.  This episode was originally published on August 26, 2024.

00:30:58

Morrison Mysteries - The Dead Alive Ep. 4: The Confession

The mystery of what happened to John Jago seems finally solved after someone confesses to killing him. But all is not as it seems, as the trial concludes with a stunning twist. This episode was originally published on August 29, 2024.

00:51:15

Letters from Sing Sing - Last Stop on the Road to Freedom

In this bonus episode of the award-winning Letters from Sing Sing podcast, veteran producer Dan Slepian reflects on the final chapter in J.J. Velazquez’s hard-fought path to full exoneration after being wrongfully convicted of murder over two decades

00:33:53

Dateline Missing in America - Ep. 19: Into Thin Air

Terrence Woods grew up in Maryland and was working with a television production crew in a remote area of central Idaho when he was last seen on October 5, 2018. Witnesses told sheriff’s deputies that as they were wrapping up for the day, Terrence, 26

00:34:50

Dateline Missing in America - Ep. 18: The Vanishing of Melanie James

Melanie James, 21, was last seen in the spring of 2014 in Farmington, New Mexico. Melanie’s sister, Melissa, saw her walking down the street with an unidentified man on April 20. Days later, police discovered Melanie’s purse and duffel bag in an alle

00:31:36

Dateline Missing in America - Ep. 17: The Night Shy Shy Disappeared

Shy’Kemmia Pate was last seen near her home in Unadilla, Georgia, on September 4, 1998. She was 8 years old. Several people reported seeing her that evening in the neighborhood. Dateline’s Josh Mankiewicz speaks with some of her loved ones, as well a

00:40:01

Dateline Missing in America - Ep. 16: Running Man

Tyler Goodrich left his home in Lincoln, Nebraska on November 3, 2023. On the night of his disappearance, Tyler and his husband, Marshall Vogel, were arguing, and Marshall called 911. Home security video shows a figure running from their house minute

00:33:33

Dateline Missing in America - Ep. 15: Missing in Music City

Marcus Rutledge disappeared on June 8, 1998, in Nashville, Tennessee. He was 23 years old and had been attending Tennessee State University. Nearly a month later, Marcus’s car, a red Plymouth Neon, was found abandoned about 20 miles from his apartmen

00:33:57

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 14: Missing Down Highway 1

25-year-old Arelie Garcia was last seen leaving her Salinas, California apartment on September 22, 2022. Later that day, Arelie’s bright red Honda Accord was found abandoned in Big Sur on Highway 1. Dateline’s Josh Mankiewicz speaks with her sisters

00:15:13

Dan Slepian reads an excerpt from “The Sing Sing Files”

Hear an exclusive audio excerpt from NBC News and Dateline producer Dan Slepian’s new book “The Sing Sing Files” which chronicles his two-decade journey navigating the criminal justice system to help free six innocent men.  Available now wherever boo

00:42:03

Letters from Sing Sing - Ep. 2: 74 Minutes

Dan checks out JJ’s alibi and pours over the 2,000-page trial transcript. It’s clear to him the trial was strange and he’s left with more questions.

00:32:49

Letters from Sing Sing - Ep. 1: JJ

Dan Slepian receives a letter from a man in prison. He’s been convicted of murder, but he insists he’s innocent. He even challenges Dan to prove him guilty.

00:23:16

13 Alibis - Ep. 8: Wrongful Convictions

Josh Mankiewicz and Dan Slepian discuss the issues of wrongful convictions in front of a live audience at the CrimeCon conference in New Orleans.

This episode was originally published on September 2, 2019.

00:16:03

13 Alibis - Ep. 6: "I'm Never Gonna Lose Hope"

Suddenly, a change that could breathe new life into Richard Rosario’s bid for freedom. Dan Slepian speaks to the woman who could make all the difference.

This episode was originally published on May 16, 2019

00:12:17

13 Alibis - Ep. 5: Breaks My Heart

After two decades with their father behind bars, Richard Rosario’s family has new hope that he may be set free. After an emotional prison visit, a court is about to decide if it is time for this family to be finally reunited.

This episode was origin

00:17:45

13 Alibis - Ep. 4: He Was Scared

Talking to a murder victim’s family is a tough thing to do, but Dan Slepian needs to find out more information about Jorge Collazo in his search for the truth. Collazo’s sister tells Dan she’ll never forget the day her little brother was killed. And,

00:19:50

13 Alibis - Ep. 3: This is The Guy

Did anyone fully investigate Richard Rosario’s alibi? Dan Slepian tracks down detectives, lawyers and an eyewitness to the murder – and gets some shocking answers to that question.

This episode was originally published on May 16, 2019.

00:16:19

13 Alibis - Ep. 2: 1000 Miles Away

The murder case against Richard Rosario was based on two eyewitnesses. But Rosario claims there are more than a dozen people who can prove he was nowhere near the scene of the crime. Dan Slepian packs his bags and heads to Florida to speak with some

00:15:23

13 Alibis - Ep. 1: Behind Bars

Is Richard Rosario an innocent man? Or is he a murderer? Dan Slepian begins his investigation at a prison in upstate New York, and at the scene of the crime in the Bronx.
This episode was originally published on May 16, 2019.

00:38:25

Murder in the Hollywood Hills - Ep. 6: Sisterhood

Women who’d been targeted by Kristi’s killer fight for justice, and one of them confronts him face-to-face.

This episode was originally published on April 11, 2024.

00:39:12

Murder in the Hollywood Hills - Ep. 4: A Bad Actor

After a tip line is established in Kristi’s case, calls come in from other women who describe terrifying encounters with a predator.

This episode was originally published on April 4, 2024.

00:23:27

Mortal Sin - Ep. 5: The Worm Dude

A verdict, a twist, and a pastor’s new calling.
This episode was originally published on December 19, 2023.

00:27:46

Mortal Sin - Ep. 4: So Help Me God

Prophecy and proof take center stage as a murder trial begins....
This episode was originally published on December 14, 2023.

00:29:10

Mortal Sin - Ep. 3: The Truth Emerges

A wife comes clean, a witness comes forward and new facts come out.
This episode was originally published on December 12, 2023.

00:29:16

Mortal Sin - Ep. 2: Lust

Forbidden relationships cause regrets… and suspicions.
This episode was originally published on December 5, 2023.

00:30:03

Mortal Sin - Ep. 1: Ashes to Ashes

A fatal fire, a needy pastor, and a chilling premonition.
This episode was originally published on December 5, 2023.

00:18:19

Morrison Mysteries - A Christmas Carol Ep. 5: The End of It

Ebenezer Scrooge awakens in his home on Christmas morning to find he has a second chance. He joyfully makes amends with all those around him and even becomes a father figure to Tiny Tim.

This episode was originally published on December 11, 2023.

00:32:35

Morrison Mysteries - A Christmas Carol Ep. 4: The Last of the Spirits

The Ghost of Christmas Future reveals the appalling events that will happen if Scrooge doesn’t become a kinder man. Tiny Tim will die, and so will Scrooge, though no one will mourn him. Scrooge begs the Ghost for a chance to put things right.

This e

00:38:31

Morrison Mysteries - A Christmas Carol Ep. 1: Marley's Ghost

Ebenezer Scrooge hates Christmas with a passion. To him, it’s all a waste of time and money. But when he’s visited by the ghost of his dead business partner, the equally greedy Jacob Marley, Scrooge begins to understand the error of his ways.

This e

00:24:00

Morrison Mysteries - The Legend of Sleepy Hollow Ep. 2: Head Over Heels

Ichabod Crane has fallen hard for Katrina. At a big party at the Van Tassel home, the two dance all night as jealous Brom stews in the corner. By night’s end, Ichabod prepares to profess his love.

This episode was originally published on October 23,

00:35:32

Murder in Apartment 12 - Ep. 4: Ozark

A jury holds the fate of Nona’s boyfriend in its hands.

This episode was originally published on October 5, 2023.

00:30:59

The Girl in the Blue Mustang - Ep. 5: Revelations

An attorney and his son undertake a new review of the evidence in Michelle’s murder and get a surprise opportunity to make their case to prosecutors.

This episode was originally published on April 4, 2023.

00:31:38

Murder & Magnolias - Ep. 6: Judgment Day

The jury renders its verdicts. Afterwards, a remarkable moment of forgiveness takes place.

This episode was originally published on December 13, 2022, and updated on February 23, 2026.

00:35:55

Murder & Magnolias - Ep. 3: Wendy #2

The investigation into a murder plot leads to a femme fatale with a past.

This episode was originally published on November 22, 2022.

00:30:59

Murder & Magnolias - Ep. 2: The Hit Packet

A manila envelope filled with maps and photos helps investigators start to unravel a deadly plot.

This episode was originally published on November 15, 2022.

00:38:07

Murder & Magnolias - Ep. 1: Marked for Death

A hit man arrives in Charleston, South Carolina with a member of a wealthy and well-known family in his crosshairs.

This episode was originally published on November 15, 2022.

00:37:54

Internal Affairs - Ep. 6: Star Witnesses

A woman at the center of the case turns state’s evidence and the defendant takes the stand.

This episode was originally published on October 18, 2022.

00:39:27

Internal Affairs - Ep. 2: Busted

A secret affair gets discovered, and a murder suspect gets cuffed.

This episode was originally published on September 20, 2022.

00:29:59

Internal Affairs - Ep. 1: The Grim Reaper

When a wife and mother is murdered in Greeley, Colorado, responding investigators suspect the costumed killer is someone they know.

This episode was originally published on September 20, 2022.

00:36:22

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 13: Lydia "Dia" Abrams

On June 6, 2020, 65-year-old Lydia Abrams disappeared from her ranch near Idyllwild, California. Left behind were her phone, purse, keys, wallet and truck. Dateline’s Keith Morrison sits down with Dia’s son, Clinton Abrams, her friend Julie Stanford

00:38:03

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 12: Logan Schiendelman

19-year-old Logan Schiendelman was last seen at his grandmother’s house in Tumwater, Washington on May 19, 2016. Logan’s car, a black 1996 Chrysler Sebring, was found the next day, abandoned on Interstate 5 just south of Olympia. His phone, wallet an

00:36:47

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 11: Are You Elizabeth Ann Gill?

On June, 13, 1965, 2-year-old Elizabeth Ann Gill, known as “Beth,” vanished while playing in her yard in Cape Girardeau, Missouri – just a few blocks from the Mississippi River. Dateline’s Josh Mankiewicz speaks with two of her nine siblings, Martha

00:28:52

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 10: Jasmine Robinson

Jasmine Robinson was last seen in the Archer, Florida home she shared with her grandmother on February 18, 2019. The 23-year-old was approximately six months pregnant when she went missing. Police believe she disappeared at approximately 7 p.m. Earli

00:37:49

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 9: Nevaeh Kingbird

On October 22, 2021, 15-year-old Nevaeh Kingbird, a member of the Red Lake Nation, left her family’s house in Bemidji, Minnesota at around 1 a.m. At 2 a.m. she left another home in a nearby trailer park. She was last seen in the Nymore neighborhood o

00:36:01

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 8: Kent Jacobs

Kent Jacobs, a 41-year-old man with a developmental disability, went for a walk near his mother’s home in Hope Mills, North Carolina on March 10, 2002, and never returned. He was last seen walking about a mile from the Colonial Heights neighborhood o

00:31:42

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 6: Dee Ann Warner

52-year-old Dee Ann Warner was last seen at the home she shared with her husband in Franklin Township, Michigan on April 25, 2021. That Sunday, one of Dee’s daughters, Rikkell Bock, stopped by her mother’s house with her husband and daughter around 9

00:27:43

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 5: Alexis Ware

29-year-old Alexis Ware was last seen around 7:30 p.m. at a 7-Eleven off Highway 29 in Anderson, South Carolina on January 30, 2022. Calls to her phone went directly to voicemail after that. On February 1, Alexis was officially reported missing. Alex

00:32:12

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 4: Aubrey Dameron

Aubrey Dameron, a 25-year-old citizen of the Cherokee Nation, was last seen leaving her family’s home on the outskirts of Grove, Oklahoma, in the early morning hours of March 9, 2019. She was reported missing when she failed to return home or answer

00:42:36

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 3: Keeshae Jacobs

On September 26, 2016, 21-year-old Keeshae Jacobs texted her mother, Toni, to say she was going to spend the night at a friend’s house. She never returned to their Richmond, Virginia home. Authorities suspect foul play in Keeshae’s disappearance. Dat

00:35:50

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 2: Heidi Planck

38-year-old California mother Heidi Planck was last seen leaving her 10-year-old son’s football game in Downey, California on October 17, 2021. Her ex-husband, Jim Wayne, reported her missing three days later when she failed to pick their son up from

00:30:03

Dateline: Missing in America - Ep. 1: Daniel Robinson

On June 23, 2021, 24-year-old geologist Daniel Robinson, drove his 2017 blue Jeep Renegade away from his job site in the desert area west of Sun Valley Parkway just north of Cactus Road in Buckeye, Arizona. He hasn’t been seen or heard from since. Da

00:30:50

The Seduction - Ep. 4: It Wasn't Dirt

After discovering evidence of a horrific crime at Ron Presba’s home, detectives question a defiant suspect.

This episode was originally published on June 28, 2022.

00:25:18

The Seduction - Ep. 2: Double Indemnity

Besotted with Patty, Jaime agrees to a horrifying request. But can he go through with it?

This episode was originally published on June 14, 2022.

00:33:26

The Seduction - Ep. 1: 'Til Death Do Us Part

An impressionable young man falls under the spell of a persuasive older woman with a problem to solve.

This episode was originally published on June 14, 2022.

00:38:51

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 6: The Bottom Line

Fireworks and finger pointing in court as two little old ladies do whatever it takes to beat a murder rap.

This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021, and updated on February 9, 2026.

00:34:29

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 4: Girl Talk

Detectives leave Helen and Olga alone together in a room wired for sound. Old resentments boil over.

This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021.

00:32:55

The Thing About Helen & Olga - Ep. 2: "The Girls"

An insurance investigator’s hunch leads law enforcement to assign a task force to tail two little old ladies.

This episode was originally published on November 16, 2021.

00:36:41

Killer Role - Ep. 6: My Jaw Hit The Floor

Days before her trial was to begin, Tucker’s lawyer said he had proof of his client’s innocence: a recording of the shooting made by Tucker herself. Warning: This episode contains audio of violence which may be disturbing to some listeners.

This epi

00:32:59

Killer Role - Ep. 4: Oh, My God. That's a .38

She was there to help with legal documents, but when a fatal shot rang out, she became a key witness.

This episode was originally published on April 22, 2021.

00:33:35

Killer Role - Ep. 3: A Drop Dead Moment

The gun fired in an instant, but the backstory that preceded the shooting took years to unfold.

This episode was originally published on April 20, 2021.

00:34:31

Killer Role - Ep. 2: It Just Went Off

The story Tucker told police sounded like a scene from a movie, but it was all too real.

This episode was originally published on April 13, 2021.

00:33:14

Killer Role - Ep. 1: In the Dark

Indie filmmakers cast Wyn Reed as their star. What they didn’t know was that Wyn wasn’t Wyn.

This episode was originally published on April 13, 2021.

00:39:06

Mommy Doomsday - Ep. 6: What Happened to the Children

The six-month search for Lori’s two missing children has followed a trail from snowy Idaho to sunny Kauai and back again. And the question of where the children are is finally answered.

This episode was originally published on March 4, 2021.

00:38:31

Mommy Doomsday - Ep. 5: Gone

As the investigation into Lori’s missing children intensifies, she and her new husband leave town. Then another person close to Lori dies unexpectedly.

This episode was originally published on March 2, 2021.

00:35:58

Mommy Doomsday - Ep. 4: Somewhere Cold

Lori moves to Idaho, as mysterious and disturbing events continue to unfold around her and Chad.

This episode was originally published on February 25, 2021.

00:37:06

Mommy Doomsday - Ep. 3: He Saw It Coming

A deadly shooting at Lori Vallow’s home brings police to her door. And it wasn’t the first time they’d met.

This episode was originally published on February 23, 2021.

00:36:08

Mommy Doomsday - Ep. 1: Ticking Time Bomb

Lori Vallow was a wife, mother, and beauty pageant contestant. Then people around her started dying.

This episode was originally published on February 16, 2021.

00:19:28

Motive for Murder - Ep. 4: Baggage

An escape from danger becomes the beginning of the nightmare.
This episode was originally published on May 21, 2020.